SOAW (The School of the Americas Watch ) - BACKGROUND INFO

poster at SOAW.org

See the SOA with various corroborated and opposed points of view. SOA or The School of the Americas has been renamed WHINSEC (For years, this school has been known also as the School of Coups or the "School of Assassins" to many peace/justice activists)

Look over the following to form your own position by seeing criteria from many sources. Decide for yourself, does this school represent AMERICA, True Democracy and PEACE? Source Watch on the School of the Americas and related: GO here

More Transcripts on USA and Torture archive goes through 2008 here

Here is strong support for the coming School of the Americas Watch event
here

SEE a full introductory film on the School of the Assassins here to see why the SOAW came to be and why more support for this movement could help bring awareness of and further the end to Torture, USA

Found out a lot more on the visionary/founder Father Roy Bourgeois here

GO here to read newsletters from the movement going up to the latest FALL issue on matters beyond yet influenced by the US and to see the Video: US Army School Teaches Brutality here

A Supportive and sometimes Surprising Christian Community - GO here



Plz scroll the three-part series of posts just below for more information.

SOAW Event: Part One - MEET US AT THE GATES

MEET US AT THE GATES!
Written by Liz Albanese
Tuesday, 16 November 2010 18:18

MEMORIA Y RESISTENCIA - NOVEMBER 19-21
TWENTY YEARS OF CONVERGENCE AT THE GATES OF FORT BENNING

It's that time again! Only 3 days until thousands from across the hemisphere and beyond join together with one common goal of shutting down the School of the Americas. As we reach the 20th anniversary of converging at the gates of Ft. Benning, we acknowledge that the strength of School of the Americas Watch is due to the many of you who work year round to change the system that creates injustice and militarization across the globe.

This year, like many others before, we come together in memoria y resistencia at the gates of Ft. Benning in Georgia to let our voices be heard loud and clear: SOMOS UNA SOLA AMERICA.

Before we come together for a weekend of celebration and solidarity with workshops, speakers, musicians and more, it is important that we remember why we strategically gather at the gates of Fort Benning.

We gather to resist the growing U.S. militarization of the Americas and to affirm the promotion of a culture of peace. We come to insist that the doors of this School of Assassins close and that doors of peace in the Americas open. As we perceive that the SOA has "jumped the gates" and is multiplying in U.S. military bases, troops, ships and fleets in the Americas, we come to say: NO MAS. We come to build bridges with our compatriots of this UNA SOLA AMERICA.

We are led to a constructive place of peace in which we come together to denounce the lies and complicity of those upholding a system of militarization. Building true solidarity means finding the connections between our struggles in order to be united in strength. The neoliberal policies that continue to create this phenomenom of militarization is affecting all of our communities.

It is clear to see that we cannot fight against such strong power on our own, we need your help. There are many different actions occurring across the globe in conjunction with SOA Watch vigil at Fort Benning. Please join in or create an action in your community using creative nonviolent tactics of educating and bringing awareness to others. There are many different ways that you can do this which include: hosting a film screening, creating legislative pressure, or holding a vigil on the main street of your town to honor victims of the School of Assassins!

There are 15 simultaneous actions that we know about thus far in México, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Paraguay, El Salvador, Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, and Ireland. For more information, click here.

GO below for Parts Two & Three with LINK for more info in Part Two...

Even if you are not able to come, Plz get out the word and notify your local and favorite media that this is going on...

This could be one of the final nails in the coffin to put Torture (at least legally and with greater awareness) to death in America...

SOAW Event: Part Two Practical Considerations

NOTE that each of the three parts I've posted above and below have lots more to say and LINKS you will find by going to this link under: Stand up for justice (left as is for easy cut/paste/sending to others (Plz do!)

SOAW.org/take-action/november-vigil

THINGS TO CONSIDER BEFORE TRAVELING TO GEORGIA:

ENGAGE IN NONVIOLENT DIRECT ACTION TO CLOSE THE SOA/WHINSEC
- Want to participate but can't risk federal arrest? Attend the Direct Action preparation meeting for all risk levels on Friday night 7:30-9:30pm, Convention Center 207; or Saturday after the plenary at 10:45am.
- Find out more about "crossing the line"?

ATTEND A NONVIOLENCE TRAINING
- Friday in the Convention Center 9am-12pm and 2-5pm
- For last minute nonviolence training please meet on Saturday, November 20th, at 1:30pm near the entrance on Ft. Benning road.

THINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS!
- Please make sure to attend the Saturday morning plenary.
- Rally at the gates with speakers, musicians and more.
Saturday November 20th 11:30-4:30pm & Sunday 8:30am-2pm.
- Benefit concerts on both Friday and Saturday nights
- Immigrant Rights Rally at the Stewart Detention Center Friday 10am-12pm in Lumpkin, Georgia (45 mins from Columbus). Meet at the Convention Center at 8:15AM to find a ride or join the caravan.
- Job, Internship, Volunteer and Religious Vocational Fair, Saturday 8-10pm, CC Ballroom A

HOTELS, MOTELS AND CAMPING AROUND COLUMBUS

Your time, energy, and donations make this vigil possible. Our work depends on you!
See you at the gates of Fort Benning, Georgia!
Last Updated on Tuesday, 16 November 2010 19:23

SOAW Event - Part Three CONVERGE Nov. 19-20

Nov. 19-21: Converge on Fort Benning

In a few days, from November 19-21, 2010, thousands will gather at the gates of Fort Benning to stand up for justice and call for the SOA/WHINSEC to be shut down! Below are some helpful links for your trip planning, and a sneak peak into what SOA Watch has lined up for this year! (para información en español, haga click aquí)

Still looking for a ride to Georgia? Visit our rideboard, and click here for more helpful travel tips.

Still looking for a place to stay in Georgia? Check out hotels, motels, and camping in and around Columbus, GA!

Organizing Packet (Paquete Organizativo)

WORKSHOP SCHEDULE

MORNING PLENARY SPEAKERS!

Engage in Nonviolent Direct Action to Close the SOA/WHINSEC

This year there will be different ways for people to be involved in the Saturday action including crossing the line of the base of Fort Benning which risks federal arrest, or a city side action, outside the permitted area. But note that you may also participate without risking arrest. SOA Watch has permits for the activities in front of the base, and the acts of civil disobedience for those risking arrest will be clearly marked.

Legal Briefing for Those Considering Crossing the Line or Civil Disobedience on Federal Property

Legal Briefing for Those Considering Civil Disobedience in Columbus ON CITY OR STATESIDE PROPERTY

For more information click here; Para información en español haz clíc aquí

NONVIOLENCE TRAININGS AND PRINCIPLES

Stage Program:

The stage program at the gates of Fort Benning will take place on Saturday, November 20, 2010 from 11:30am - 4pm and on Sunday, November 21, 2010 from 8am - 2pm. The program will feature leaders from the resistance against the illegitimate U.S.-supported government in Honduras; Padre Jesus Alberto Franco, a renowned leader from Colombia, risking his life working with Afro-Colombian, indigenous and mixed-race farmers in resistance; Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Detroit; Marie Dennis, director of the Maryknoll Office for Global Concerns and Co-President of Pax Christi International; United Auto Worker president Bob King; the Hip Hop group Rebel Diaz from the Bronx; the puppetistas, musicians and many other beautiful people.

Above: Rebel Diaz

Workshops and Vendors:

The vigil at the gates of Fort Benning has become one of the largest annual progressive gatherings in the country. This year, 60+ tables hosted by progressive organizations and fair trade retailers will line Fort Benning Road throughout the weekend. Pick up a cup of fair trade, organic coffee at the Café Campesino tent, check out empowering literature at the Catholic Worker Bookstore, and learn about Witness for Peace's fall campaign at their table.

Dozens of workshops and other events will be held throughout the weekend at the Columbus Convention Center. Organizations and individuals such as Ann Wright, the Coalition of Immokalee Workers, Símon Sedillo, the Colombia Support Network, Pax Christi USA, and MANY others, will hold infomative sessions throughout the weekend. There will also be concerts, student meet-ups, a Catholic liturgy at which Bishop Thomas Gumbleton will preside, a hip hop show case, film screenings including The Coca Cola Case and Quién Dijo Miedo (Inside the Coup in Honduras), nonviolence trainings, and other exciting events to look forward to! For a full list of events, click here.

**Please join in on Nonviolence Trainings Friday morning and afternoon. The practice of nonviolent direct action is an essential part of the movement to close the School of the Americas and it is only successful if we are constantly practicing and improving our nonviolent pressure.**

4th Annual Vigil at the Stewart Detention Center

Friday, November 19th @ 10AM in Lumpkin, Georgia

SOA Watch calls for justice for all immigrants including those held inhumanely and without due process at the Stewart Detention Center, an isolated, for-profit facility. We contend that many immigrants to the United States, particularly those from Latin America, are victims of U.S.-sponsored military training and other atrocious policies around issues like trade and immigration. Click here to read more...

If you are interested in participating in this vigil, contact Becca Polk, Becca@soaw.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . Those leaving from Columbus will meet outside the Convention Center (801 Front Ave.) at 8:15am to join the caravan led by a member of Georgia Detention Watch. Please notify Becca if you are able to drive.

we can do it!YOU can make this year's vigil even better: VOLUNTEER TODAY!

* URGENT! We need two people with A/V expertise (production) to help out from Friday morning to Saturday evening, at the Convention Center. Please email Nico at nico@soaw.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it if you can help!
* Become a Peacemaker
* Get creative! Join the Puppetistas!
* Educate people at the legislative table near the stage, contact Theresa at tmcameranesi@gmail.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
* Help with translation and interpretation. We still need bi-lingual English-Spanish interpreters. Contact Sara at sara.koopman@gmail.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or Marcos at somospoetas@gmail.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , to volunteer!
* Volunteer with the medics team, contact Larry at egbertL4pj@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
* Other volunteer tasks include: sitting at the event registration table, delivering programs to hotels, unloading tables and chairs for Saturday and Sunday's events at the gates, and more! Contact Nico at nico@soaw.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , to help with vigil logistics in Georgia.

Donate to the SOA Watch Silent Auction

The third annual auction will be held in conjunction with the annual SOA Watch vigil from November 19-21 in the Columbus Convention Center. Some ideas for auction items you might donate: crafts, jewelry, artwork, local foods, fair trade coffee or chocolate, wine, a few days in your country/lake cabin or condo! Please contact Lisa at LSullivan@soaw.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and let her know what item you can donate to the auction and she will be in touch with you about details of how to get it to the auction.

Make History: Endorse the November Vigil

With less than a month to go, many organizations have expressed their support for the closing of the SOA/WHINSEC and for our 2010 vigil. We are heartened by the solidarity and support felt across the Americas!

Current endorsers include: the United Auto Workers; the Student-Farmworker Alliance; Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (M.E.Ch.A); Fellowship of Reconciliation; United for Peace and Justice; Catholics United; Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW); Womens' International League for Peace and Freedom, US Section; A.N.S.W.E.R.; Students for a Democratic Society (SDS); and dozens of other faith, community, worker and peace groups from around the country.

Get Ready for Human Rights Day: December 10 2010

Pakistan women in unity and prayer after the floods still are taking their toll

Why not make your presentation or gathering about Inter-People understanding which of course leads to Human Rights for All? Do not human rights cover freedom of worship and religion as well as other choices? And what of those with NO choice?

More than three months have passed since Pakistan was hit by some of the worst flooding in its history. (Olivier Matthys/IFRC) (p-PAK1508)

For a conference on Muslim-Jewish Discussion GO here


Here's some History about this day GO here

For me, Inter-cultural and Inter-Faith discourse is part and parcel with Human Rights because Rights come out of respect...so the following ideas are an interweaving of Rights and Inter-Humanitarian Dialogue.

AND/or why not consider tying your event on Human Rights into concern for victims of floods/earthquakes and other catastrophes natural or man-made?
go to the International Committee of the Red Cross/Red Crescent for a touching diary of Pakistan Floods Affectees - GO here

Here's some useful copy from a former commemoration here

Here are more suggestions - yet - hey - create your own out of the unique passions and eye only you and group may have to give:

Amnesty USA dot org GO here

Bloggers Unite dot org GO here

GET INSPIRED with the Trailers and Videos from the worldwide OneDayOn Earth event: GO here BE ECLECTIC

See comments and versions on The PEACEABLE KINGDOM
http://contentinacottage.blogspot.com/2008/11/peaceable-kingdom.html

ROCKWELL THE GOLDEN RULE PRINT The same year The Saturday Evening Post cover appeared Norman Rockwell was awarded the 1961 Interfaith Award of The National Conference of Christians and Jews.Rockwell cherished this recognition above all others, because it affirmed his stance that, "all men are members of the One Family of Man under God."


Just a few more URLS for ideas here and here

NOT too early for some of us to begin working toward an Intercultural (even human rights oriented) World Poetry Day here What a great time to encourage Poets and other Artists to become a larger part of human rights and loving tolerance than ever before...


READ more on the Dignity of Difference programs by going to oneheartforpeace blog

Finally, Sign the Pledge: "Reason - Truth - Civility" and encourage others to do so on Human Rights Day GO here

UPDATED: The Long Shadow of Torture: An Audio and Interview

Here's a helpful AUDIO without stridency: here

UPDATES: 16 November 2010

PRESS RELEASE: Shaker Aamer still in Guantanamo Bay despite UK government compensation - After years of suffering during their kidnap, rendition and detention in Guantanamo Bay and other prisons around the world, the former Guantanamo detainees released to the UK are finally being paid compensation for the UK’s role in their incarceration...Despite this welcome news, one of the individuals who has a strong case against the UK’s complicity in his torture, still remains in Guantanamo Bay. Shaker Aamer has now been detained without charge or trial for the last nine years and despite for strong calls for his release, he continues to languish to this day. Cageprisoners Director and former Guantanamo Bay detainee, Moazzam
Begg, said of his case,

“Shaker Aamer must now become a priority for this current
government. The compensation paid to the former Guantanamo detainees
is a welcome departure from the policies of the previous
administration but in order to truly resolve the errors that have been
made, Shaker Aamer must be returned back home to his family. We will
do everything in our power to help this government achieve their goal
of helping his return.” (Cageprisoners is a human rights NGO that exists to raise awareness of the plight of the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and other detainees held
as part of the War on Terror. We aim to give a voice to the voiceless.)

False Confessions and the Norfolk Four (Which we know goes on often in alleged "terrorist" cases as well as in US in general here

BBC report on Stephen Soldz' top site on Britain's decision to compensate torture victims here

Recent example of US gov's hiding of crucial documents which would give many clues as to the unreliability of the CIA in our wars and detention machinery here Yet who's prosecuting the ongoing criminality at the top including the CIA?

Watch for more additions in the Comments below and add your own.

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Torture's HUMAN CULTURAL POLITICAL AND MORAL aspects

Here's a RE-Play of an earlier interview given recent revelations. One of the most interesting comments is Dr. Rejali's comment that we must ask the question related to torture "From where comes the demand and from where comes the supply?" and that torture "creates a very non-professional atmosphere" among doctors, journalists and lawyers and that 48 hours of sleep deprivation can create deep muscular pains in many of your muscles and joints - so many kinds of torture leaves no marks...and that slippery slopes involving group process and doing a little evil leads to more and more. Rejali calls this "fuzzy" thinking.

He says that once you give power to individuals to use torture you give one individual absolute power over another individual. You train a group of people to torture and afterward where to these people go? That which was international becomes domestic...these folk become police officers at home (torture has been documented in Chicago from 73-93 and water-boarding has been common and documented in the deep south after Vietnam)...Little to none of this long effect is calculated. This interview also includes an excerpt from the Stanley Milgram experiment***.

Toward the end of this interview is a mention that to begin with the Iranian Revolution was a revolution against torture although the follow-up was somewhat problematic.

Iranian-American political scientist Dr. Darius Rejali is one of the world's leading experts on torture, and in particular on how democracies change torture and are changed by it.

In the wake of Wikileaks revelations about torture in U.S.-occupied Iraq, we explore how his knowledge might deepen our public discourse about such practices — and inform our collective reckoning with consequences yet to unfold.

Krista Tippett, host of Being"Facing the Malleability of Human Nature:

"In the post-September 11th era, torture became an aspect of U.S. identity, a defining part of our national repertoire of intelligence gathering and military detention.

This is something we knew on some level long before April 2009, when the Obama administration released memos from the Bush administration that functionally sanctioned it.Those memos semantically parse just how far an interrogator could go, how much lasting psychological or physical pain he or she must inflict, to breach international definitions of "torture."

Without stridency, Darius Rejali's knowledge sets such parsing in human and historical context. Most importantly, he helps us understand the damage such calibrations — and the policies they engender on a slippery slope of rationalization — did to the soldiers who received the orders and to the nation that now carries this legacy. What it does, in other words, to us.We started talking years ago as a production team about how we could approach the subject of torture and contribute to public reflection on it.

In Darius Rejali, we finally found a distinctive, helpful, edifying way in. He brings a unique practical and moral authority to this conversation on several levels. He was raised in pre-revolutionary Iran with, as he tells it, an Iranian Shiite father and a Calvinist American mother. He grew up with an awareness that a long line of his aristocratic Iranian forebears, including his great grandfather, had used torture against opponents. Torture was also a known tool of the state apparatus of the king, or Shah, who ruled Iran during Darius Rejali's childhood in the 1960s and 70s.

Darius Rejali says there is no question that authoritarian states have practiced torture most viciously. But, he points out, torture is also not incompatible with modernity, culture, and education, nor is it a stranger to democracy. Major media reports of the story behind "enhanced interrogation," after its details were declassified in April 2009, suggested that U.S. officials had to learn about torture techniques used by the former Soviet Union.

But one of most disturbing — and important — revelations Darius Rejali makes in this conversation is that democracies have made their distinctive mark on the history of torture, including the United States.Torture is a part of the history of human cruelty, Darius Rejali clarifies. It is distinguished by the fact that it is applied by officials of a state, claiming public trust. Rejali finds echoes of torture not only on the Iranian side of his family lineage but also in that of his maternal ancestors who held slaves in the American South. Interrogation using electricity was innovated in U.S. prisons in the early 20th century. Even "waterboarding," or simulated drowning, — the most notorious and controversial method of interrogation to enter our public vocabulary — appeared domestically, inside U.S. prisons, early in the last century. In the 1980s, a Texas sheriff and his deputies were convicted of using waterboarding to extract confessions from prisoners.

This is not a new or foreign invention.It is, rather, a prime example of the "long shadow" of torture that this conversation attempts to trace as a foundation for collective reckoning and healing. Waterboarding first took root in local police forces, mostly in the American South, after U.S. soldiers were exposed to it in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War. Its impact becomes manifest in the inner trauma, the family lives, and the future work in security firms and prisons of soldiers who were ordered to do something — as Rejali sees it — that no human being should ever be ordered to do.

Rejali's immersion in 40 years of social scientific research also yields the plain, unsettling message that these men and women who have perpetrated torture were probably not sadists, not just a "few bad apples" who defied the norm. The demonstrated if shocking norm of human behavior is that at least half of us are capable of inflicting harm on another human being under orders, in the right circumstances with the right kind of authority behind the orders. I'm reminded here of a similar observation made to me, and discerned in killing fields the world over, by the forensic anthropologist Mercedes Doretti.

The upside of facing this malleability of human nature, however, is that the right systems of accountability and reckoning can make a profound and immediate difference moving forward. Darius Rejali also proposes some very practical steps for lawmakers and citizens as we reckon with the unfolding consequences of what has been done in our name in recent years. This reckoning is in all of our interest, whatever side of the political divide we are on, and whether photographs are released or some individuals brought to trial.Whether you call it "enhanced interrogation" or "torture," it profoundly traumatizes the lives and societies of those who experienced it and those who perpetrated it. Coming to terms with these human consequences will be the work not of days but of years and generations.

For we know that in our lives, both individual and collective, traumas that we do not face will continue not merely to haunt but to define us.

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Krista Tippett says: I Recommend Reading: Torture and Democracy by Darius Rejali --
Rejali's latest book on torture, violence, and its role in democratic countries is a sweeping, definitive narrative. His comprehensive history of torture and its techniques shines a clarifying, expansive light on modern debates, with both moral and practical implications for us as individuals and as members of a broader culture.

Pertinent Posts from the Being Blog include the following - find these at onbeing.org or click here

Sgt. Joseph Darby» Whistleblowers, Resistors, and Defectors: Two examples of individuals who confronted the status quo, and were ultimately vindicated.

"Violence pretty much forces a silence on people." We talk about torture in the abstract, but do we consider the actual acts of torture and the violence that they are?

"Torture" vs. "Enhanced Interrogation" What should be the role of public media in labeling interrogation behavior as torture?

Rejali Reprise and Why Resistors Resist - Hear an excerpt of an American RadioWorks interview with Rejali about those who resist the pressure of group-think in a "torture bureaucracy."

"All Words Have Connotations" - A New York Times editorial sheds light on the difficulties of covering torture and interrogation.

A Guest with a Personal Interest in the Torture Debate - A passage from Torture and Democracy with a view of Rejali's personal stake in this subject.

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News Digest for November 8, 2010

11/08 / Lt. Col. Barry Wingard / The Public Record / Nine Years Too Long

11/08 / David S. Cloud / Los Angeles Times / White House considers Yemen drone strikes, officials say

11/08 / Marc and Craig Kielburger / Edmonton Journal (Canada) / Khadr deserves rehabilitation

11/08 / U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia / November 5 Ruling, Salaha v. Obama

11/08 / Mary Shaw / OpEd News / The Child Soldier and Gitmo's Kangaroo Court

11/08 / Brian Bennett / St. Louis Today (Missouri) / National Former Guantanamo detainees active in Yemen

11/08 / Lucile Malandain / Agence France Presse / Yemenis at Guantanamo remain in limbo

11/07 / Lyle Denniston / ScotusBlog / New test of Munaf filed

11/07 / John Feffer / Foreign Policy In Focus / The Lies of Islamophobia

More news at http://www.nogitmos.org/news

ALSO SEE THE (PAT) TILLMAN DOCUMENTARY JUST OUT TO SEE HOW LIES AND COVER-UPS AMONG THE US MILITARY ARE PERPETUATED YEAR AFTER YEAR.

Bush Says He Gave Waterboard Orders in new Memoir

Rachel Slajda | November 4, 2010, 9:38AM
'Decision Points', CIA, George Bush, Torture

In his new memoir, former President George W. Bush says he personally gave the order to waterboard Khalid Sheik Mohammed in 2003.

According to the Washington Post, Bush writes that the CIA asked him if they could use the torture technique on Mohammed.

"Damn right," he said.

The Post reports -- via "someone close to Bush who has read the book" -- that Bush writes that he would do it again if he thought it would save lives. He also reiterates his position that waterboarding, or simulated drowning, is not torture.

Bush said he believed Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks, had information about pending attacks.

Another terrorism suspect who underwent what the Bush administration called an "enhanced interrogation technique," Abu Zubaydah, was waterboarded more than 80 times in a month -- raising questions about how much information the CIA was getting.

The Obama Justice Department has called the technique torture and prohibited its use.

Also revealed in publicity tour surrounding the memoir, Decision Points: Bush considers himself a "dissenting voice" on the decision to go to Iraq.

Featured at TPMMuckraker

Bush: I Gave The Order To Waterboard

Four Dead Candidates Won On Tuesday (And Two Lost)

Various Comments under this article

1 HOUR AGO

Of course any opportunity to investigate or punish the previous
administration is gone with the majority. But that's OK, I'm told by
Republicans and Democrats alike that that's all in the past so it
doesn't matter anymore!
(Edited by author 1 hour ago)

We seem to have internalized (Democrats also) the words of Nixon from
the Nixon/Frost interview: "If the President does it, that means it's
not illegal".

quaint notions of Constitution and Separation of Power/Limits of
Power don't apply to Republican presidents.

What "later"?? Now that the house Republicans have subpoena power I
fully expect the hearings, committees and panels to be formed for
investigating Obama's "constitutional violations" for the next 2
years.

Arrival of Godot
1 HOUR AGO
Look. I don't doubt that Pinochet, Videla, Stroessner, or the others
actually thought there was a danger to their homeland.

It still doesn't justify torture.

Pinochet was indeed under indictment in Chile at the time of his death.


Comparing Bush to unelected military dictators is pretty silly.

Arrival of Godot
48 MINUTES AGO
You really don't want to use "un-elected" and "Bush" in the same
sentence while trying to make a point.

It was hyperbole. Intentionally so.

Nonetheless, Pinochet and Stroessner were both "elected". And, "the
greatest, most free country the world has ever known" should never
have tortured people. But we did.

what about the other waterboarded guy, al-libi, the one who said
saddam was in bed with al qeada? cause that guy we sent to egypt
where he 'committed suicide' in his cell. are you proud of torturing
him, too?

Obama says look forward and not backward! ... therebye giving the
green light for the next dickwad president to do exactly as Bush did
with no fear of legal consequences. Thanks BO, great job! - The
Professional Left

...so bush can't say something stupid without it being obama's problem?

the Dems may not have the majority in Congress now - but what's the
statute of limitations on this sort of thing?

We stand for nothing anymore. I am ashamed to be an American. We used
to be the bastion of liberty. Now we are broke and broken. Hope is
pretty much dead, too.

The lead story yesterday on TPM was how Issa has subpeona power and
the likelyhood of the GOP using it to pursue impeachment. Today not
quite the lead story is that Bush admits he authorized torture. Pelosi
emphatically took impeachment off the table when Dems won Congress in
06, actually even before they won.

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2006/11/08/cq_1916.html

She nearly fell over herself, she could not get this out fast enough.
There is a Chinese curse, it goes something like, "may you live
interesting times" Unfortunately, things are way beyond interesting at
this point, they have moved into the psychotic.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

43 MINUTES AGO
Totally agree with Ug. While I realize that Democrats in the US
couldn't go after a Republican ex-president, there is nothing that
would have stopped say, the Europeans from taking up war crimes
hearings at The Hague. By treaty law, the US would have to cooperate
with them to the fullest extent. Not gonna happen now I guess.

2 MINUTES AGO
You'd be correct...if the US had ratified the Treaty of Rome.

The ICC, which would have jurisdiction of war crimes, can't prosecute
citizens of non-signatory countries.

44 MINUTES AGO
I don't believe him. I suspect the CIA actually asked Cheney for
permission. They knew he--not Bush--wore the pants in that
presidential "relationship." To find out for sure, ask Liz Cheney if
it was Bush who authorized the waterboarding. If her face reddens and
she clams up, we'll know her daddy did it. This is just a case of
Bush trying to massage and revisionize his legacy. He doesn't deserve
this free press coverage--he's irrelevant. The media should
concentrate on people who still matter . . . like Bristol Palin,
still a contender on Unwed Mothers Dancing with the Stars.

It is a real shame that Chimpoleon will never get a taste of his own
medicine or the fate he so richly deserves. Nuremberg taught all the
lessons we need to know about what to do with war criminals. The
whole Bush Crime Family should be tried at the Hague, convicted, and
taken out dancing. At the ends of ropes.

Well, since Holder has done NOTHING other then what Gonzo would have
done...IF it LOOKS like a WAR CRIME. if it SOUNDS like a WAR CRIME,
and if the person accused of COMMITTING A WAR CRIME admits that he
DID COMMIT WAR CRIMES, WHY IS HE FREE??? Otherwise that means anyone
can get away with war crimes inside or outside the US... No
worries...

6 MINUTES AGO
Yes.. and it looks as though voters throughout this once great nation
have decided that it is acceptable for those in power to torture.
Proof? Okay, our current democrat and republican mobsters in
Washington have decided to PROTECT WAR CRIMINALS... and justify it by
stating protecting them will allow this nation to progress and get
things done. RUBBISH!! Protecting these criminals says to the next
torturer that he/she can do so without regard to consequences. It
also tells patriots of over two hundred years that we could care less
about their sacrifices. When they were willing to die to stop these
horrendous acts, they were just naive and misdirected. Giving up your
life for honorable reasons (protecting innocent men, women and
children... preventing prison and torture without trial...
kidnapping... etc.) is just not this nation's way of doing business
anymore. We are now just as evil as those we fought! Integrity,
justice, humanity... even our once held beliefs of what it meant to
be a Christian (or have any uplifting qualities for that matter) have
been thrown out the window.

These mobsters we are harboring and promoting in the end, will be our
destruction...Good gift to leave our children, isn't it...

Obama turned his back on the law by failing to "look back". To him, I
say: Crimes are punished *by looking back*. That cost us dearly on
Nov. 2 and, unless Holder gets off his ass and indicts the Bushists,
will cost Obama in 2012. There really is no controversy. This is as
certain as gravity.
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“Of course the people don’t want war . . . That is understood.
But . . . it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along
whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, a parliament, or
a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always
be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
It works the same in any country.” --Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg
trials, 1946 from “Nuremberg Diary,” by G. M. Gilbert.
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After the US Election: Center for Constitutional Rights

Rabbis for Human Rights Award to CCR and find many other awards here

Letter from Vincent Warren, Executive Director of CCR (Just In, November 3, 2010):

After yesterday’s election you may be wondering what your next move is to further social justice and restore sanity in government....Support (for) CCR ...(is taking) another step on the very long journey we are taking together to restore our rights and renew our country’s commitment to the rule of law.

Like many of you, I watched the election coverage to see what direction the American people wanted to pursue. The results were disappointing, but not surprising. The right wing is now calling the shots in the House of Representatives, some left-leaning members of Congress were discarded and the Tea Party has a toe hold. The stakes for justice and democratic principles are so high, CCR must continue to be a clear, progressive voice for change no matter who controls the House or the Senate. Help from the current Congress and the executive has been rare and lackluster. History has shown that the upcoming move to the center-right may serve the 2012 elections but will certainly mean further retreat from the change we want to see. Your next move should be to keep the Center strong to serve as a check on these two branches and to push the courts to preserve a meaningful democratic society for us all.

Early on CCR took on the fight against the unconstitutional expansion of presidential powers; sought to expose the abuses and illegalities of US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq, including the increased use of military contractors; and challenged the repeated use of “national security” justifications by President Bush, and now by the Obama administration, to obscure facts and avoid judicial review.

With your help CCR will continue to take the long view and pursue cutting-edge litigation and educational & media advocacy, pushing back on overreaching executive power, taking on unpopular cases for the most marginalized clients and communities, and building respect for human rights...

On behalf of all of us at CCR, thank you for standing with us at the front lines of social justice and pushing ahead, even in the most difficult times, to protect and advance rights for all.

With appreciation,

Vincent Warren
Executive Director

P.S. I’d like to share with you more of CCR’s work over the past year in the pursuit of justice. Please check out our 2010 Annual Report at www.CCRjustice.org/annual-report or CLICK here to learn more.

To obtain a hard copy of Center for Constitutional Rights' latest annual report, please write to:

Center for Constitutional Rights
666 Broadway
New York, NY 10012

or

Office of the Attorney General, Dept. of Law, Charities Bureau
120 Broadway,
New York, NY 10271

(I suppose what you may want to supply is a large SSAE (Stamped, Self-Addressed Envelope with a good estimate of the needed amount of stamps from your location.)

NOTES from Connie (blogger here):

Help keep groups like the CCR STRONG...we in the US and those who work with us need this solid organization more than ever. I left out the plea for funds as this is my policy with this blog - yet you may want to contact ccrjustice.org to both sign up for free emails and to find other ways to pitch-in...

By the way, here's a recent piece via Vincent by a CCR Staff Member
"Live from the Rachel Corrie Trial in Israel" GO here

MK Hanin Zoabi Will Speak at the MECA Event Today

Our upcoming speaker, MK Hanin Zoabi, was among dozens of Palestinian citizens injured by Israeli police last week. She was shot in the back and neck with rubber coated bullets. Many believe she was specifically targeted by police. She has received hundreds of death threats since her participation in the Gaza Freedom Flotilla. Despite her injuries, Hanin has travelled to the US as planned and will speak at a MECA event in Berkeley with Areej Ja'fari on Tuesday, November 2.

Hanin Zoabi

In a recent interview with Ali Abunimah, she stated:

“We are struggling for a normal state which is a state for all of its citizens, [in] which the Palestinians and the Israeli Jews can have full equality. I recognize religious, cultural and national group rights for the Israelis, but inside a democratic and neutral state.”

Please join MECA in welcoming MK Hanin Zoabi and Areej Ja'afari, a Palestinian leader of youth, women's and refugee rights from the West Bank at our event tomorrow evening; Palestinian Women's Voices. You can still buy tickets online now.

Sincerely,

Barbara Lubin
"It was so inspiring to meet and hear Haneen Zoabi, Palestinian member of Israel's Knesset, a courageous leader, feminist and struggler for equality. Go hear her along with Areej Ja'fari, and support the important work of the Middle East Children's Alliance on Nov 2 in Berkeley, CA"

- Ali Abunimah, Co-Founder of the Electronic Intifada,author of "One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli-Palestinian Impasse"

Ali Abunimah will be speaking in Palo Alto Nov. 3.
Tuesday, November 2nd, 7pm, Berkeley
Palestinian Women's Voices: MK Hanin Zoabi and Areej Ja'fari

First Congregational Church of Berkeley
2345 Channing Way @ Dana
MK HANIN ZOABI
Al-Tajammu’ Party leader in 1948 Palestine
Palestinian Member of the Knesset
Leading member of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla’s Mavi Marmara
AREEJ JA’FARI
Youth/women’s leader & refugee activist from Dheisheh Refugee Camp

Tickets: $15, $10 for low-income and students, no one turned away for lack of funds. Buy tickets online or call Brown Paper Tickets at 1-800-838-3006

$15 tickets also available at bookstores: (east bay) Books Inc., Diesel, Moe's Books, Pegasus/Solano, Pegasus/Shattuck, Walden Pond (SF) Modern Times

This is a benefit for MECA's Maia Project: Bringing Clean Water to the Children of Palestine.

The event is wheelchair accessible and ASL interpreted.

Cosponsored by KPFA, Al-Awda, SF Arab Film Festival, Arab Resource and Organizing Center, Bay Area Campaign to End Israeli Apartheid, Bay Area Women in Black, Code Pink, Global Fund for Women, International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Jewish Voice for Peace, Palestinian Youth Network, Students for Justice in Palestine, US Palestinian Community Network

For info events@mecaforpeace.org or 510-548-0542.

Also read more about the above speakers at the online Electronic Intifada

Planting Seeds by Kathy Kelly (With Voices for Creative NonViolence)

Kathy Kelly writes about her experience recently in Afghanistan

Co-coordinator of Voices for Creative Nonviolence
Posted: October 30, 2010 11:33 AM

Nur Agha Akbari and his family live in Kabul, on an unpaved, pitted street lined by mud brick homes. When we visited him this week, his oldest son, age 13, led us to a sitting room inside their rented two-story apartment, furnished with simple mats and pillows. The youngster smiled shyly as he served us tea. Then his father entered the room.

Mr. Akbari is a robust, energetic, well educated man from a respected, academic Afghan family. In the late 1970s, Nur had gone to study agriculture in the UK and remained there, becoming an organic farmer. His four brothers had instead remained in Afghanistan, or else returned there after studies abroad. His two eldest brothers had trained in the Soviet Union -- one as an engineer, one as a nuclear scientist -- and had received early warning of the likelihood of what came to be the 1979 Soviet invasion. They spoke out publicly about their fears as the invasion grew more and more imminent.

On December 27 of that year, Soviet troops occupied major government, media and military buildings in Kabul, initiating a nine-year war between a nationalist/fundamentalist resistance (the "Mujahideen") and the Soviet occupiers. Soviet officials fired Nur's oldest brother from his cancer research work at Kabul University and blacklisted him. He found himself unable to work, and soon joined the resistance. Nur doesn't know much about what happened to him then, but he was among thousands of people bulldozed into mass graves after capture and execution by the Soviets. All told Nur knows very little about the fates of his three older brothers, all killed in the war. But their tragedy would largely shape his life.

Nur had arranged for his surviving, younger, brother to join him in the UK. But Nur would lie awake at night, thinking about the children and the wives of his slain brothers. Concerned that his nephews and nieces were now fending for themselves in Afghanistan's war zones, fatherless and penniless, he resolved to return home.

When he learned of a job with an Austrian relief agency which would have him living in Pakistan but taking three trips per year into Afghanistan, he immediately applied. A representative of the "Austrian Relief Group" recognized Nur's family name and told him it would be exceedingly dangerous for him to enter Afghanistan, but Nur persisted, realizing this was perhaps his only chance to rescue his widowed and orphaned family there. He got the job and swiftly set up residence in the Pakistani city of Peshawar where, eventually, he managed to gather all of his brothers' children and wives in a large house he had rented. At last he could be sure that they had health care, adequate food, and access to education. He worked tirelessly to make this possible.

Now, at family reunions, they remember those hard times. The youngsters who were saved by their young uncle are themselves parents now, and the family history includes great gratitude for the sacrifices Nur made, as a young man, to provide for and encourage his large extended family.

His is among thousands of stories of hardship and tragedy, many worse than his own, as he made sure repeatedly to remind us several times in the course of relating it. Stories of death and dislocation from the superpower invasion of 1979, and now from the American occupation, entering its tenth year.

Now Nur works as an engineer for the Afghan government's Department of Agriculture, with many more people to try to help rescue. He talked to us about the problems besetting Afghanistan as it attempts to rebuild from an ongoing war.

Nur is a visionary. He imagines communities learning to provide for themselves and solving problems using local decision-making and initiative at a grass roots level. He is passionately committed to a model of community development which he had begun to implement in the Panjshir Province. "We need to sow seeds," he says. "Germination takes time. It's not like building a wall which you can just slap up." But he has hit impasse after impasse in his efforts to foster grassroots community development, with many different forms of corruption everywhere springing up to commandeer the funds the occupation has made available for development work.

Our delegation has heard a lot about rising and pervasive corruption over the past two weeks traveling in Afghanistan. Following the election of Mr. Karzai, people we've spoken with were stung by the congratulatory calls from heads of state around the world, including that of President Obama. Already outraged over what they (and international observers) consider an extremely fraudulent election, they feel bewildered by other world governments' legitimization of corruption in their capital. By supporting the current government, the U.S. exacerbates the life-choking corruption here. Afghan Member of Parliament, Ramazan Bashar Dost, urged us to ask the U.S. government to realize this, and desist. A young woman running her own company in Kandahar province spoke to us with contempt about corrupt officials. And others -- an Afghan human rights lawyer, the co-founder of a large media company, three fellows working for a smaller news agency, along with almost every Bamiyan villager we met during a week there -- all spoke of how the corruption had negatively, in cases disastrously, impacted their efforts to make a living and contribute toward their country's resurrection from its current, dreadful state.

One of the most egregious examples has been set by the United States. According to a McClatchy report released on October 27, 2010, the U.S. government knows it has awarded nearly $18 billion in contracts for rebuilding Afghanistan over the past three years, but it can't account for any of the billions spent before 2007. What's more, a crucial agency of government investigators and auditors -- those responsible for the SIGAR, the "Special Inspector General in Afghanistan Report," on waste, fraud, and abuse of American taxpayer dollars -- has now received a failing grade in a new government investigation of corruption in their own activities.

Nur wonders where all the money has gone. "If we spent one quarter of one quarter of one quarter of the billions that they've spent, we could fund this process of community development," he assures us. "Billions have been spent and we have nothing for it. If we had followed a process marked by transparency, fairness and involvement of local communities, we could have turned this country around in five years."

Beyond lamenting lost opportunities and lost lives in the dangerously impoverished Afghan economy, he mainly fears that ordinary Afghans will increasingly adjust to a welfare culture which relies on handouts rather than hard work to achieve progress.

As we spoke with Nur, his son returned to the room with a rich, creamy soup prepared by his mother and then left and returned again with platters, one per guest, each heaped with walnuts, glazed dried apricots and luscious pomegranate seeds. When we praised the quality of this truly delicious fare, Nur (with a wry smile) replied,

"We spend many days trying to export these good fruits. By the time we finish crossing bureaucratic hurdles and filling out many sets of papers, arranging transportation, getting approval, and negotiating prices, the fruit often rots. But, if you have a truckload of opium, you can send it to the other side of the world in one day."

Nevertheless, Nur continues working toward a better future for Afghanistan. He holds on to a deep faith in the ability of the simplest people to generate solutions to their problems if they are liberated from the oppressive effects of war and corruption. This is no time for a loss of nerve. Nur Agha Akbari, a survivor and a creative thinker, may not reap the harvest in his lifetime, but he won't stop planting the seeds.

Kathy Kelly (kathy@vcnv.org) has been traveling in Afghanistan with two other co-coordinators of Voices for Creative Nonviolence, David Smith-Ferri and Jerica Arents.

“Losing the hand of God’s protection.” Alan Grayson Vs. Daniel Webster:

Before the election tomorrow, I want to tell you one last thing about my Republican opponent, Daniel Webster. Because it illustrates the mindset of the Far Right, and what will happen to us if Webster, and people like Webster, come to power again.

This year, jobs and the economy are on the voters’ minds. But every once in a while, a question comes up about war and peace. It happened here a few weeks ago. Someone asked Daniel Webster, “how long do we stay in Afghanistan?”

Webster’s answer: “However long we stay is a military decision that should not be shared with the world.”

Nor, apparently, shared with us. It’s our job to pay for the war, and to raise children who will fight and die in that war. But not to know how long the war will go on, even if it goes on forever.

We deserve an answer to the question, “how long do we stay in Afghanistan?” Contribute to our campaign, and help defeat a man with no answers.

But that’s not all. Webster said that the war in Afghanistan must continue indefinitely, because “we need a beachhead in the Middle East.” (Note to Webster: Afghanistan is in Central Asia, not the Middle East.) And occupying Afghanistan “protects us,” Webster said, “because once that beachhead is established, it can move further and further.”

In Thomas Greer’s book "A Brief History of the Western World", he describes the result of the Crusades as follows: “The feudal system of western Europe was thus transplanted to this Christian beachhead in the Middle East.”

We don’t need more Crusades. Especially with nukes. Help defeat Daniel Webster.

But here is the punchline. Webster finishes his answer to the question “how long do we stay in Afghanistan” by referring to “the biggest threat to our country.” Which is this: “Losing the hand of God’s protection.”

Greer’s book describes the “orgy of looting and killing of Muslims and Jews” during the Crusades. In words echoing what Daniel Webster says today, one Crusader wrote in his journal, “It was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place [Jerusalem] should be filled with the blood of unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.”

I support peace. Daniel Webster supports endless war. The choice is clear. Help us if you can.

I believe what Abraham Lincoln believed: "Don't pray that God's on our side; pray that we're on his side."

Peace,

Alan Grayson

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Florida is having quite a little "war" fueled in large part by FOX and POLITICO...

There are two people vying for the same slot. Last day to vote for them is tomorrow...

Until the recent "Taliban Ad" - I could find no obvious fault with Grayson... and was disappointed with that one...However, There's certainly a lot of information and lots to worry about with Daniel Webster's campaign as well and I believe much more so...

So how about checking the records out for self and not allowing FOX and POLITICO to distort your own view on the issues and facts?

Whether or not you vote and no matter how you believe these two candidates are looking at their opponent, do ask if you really want a leader to represent America who is willing for ENDLESS WAR...ENDLESS CRUSADE MENTALITY?

Thanx for coming by and do share your opinion..ALBEIT NOT with Anonymous name...

here

And his campaign website: http://www.graysonforcongress.com/